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1) Els, you are saying that
you are 100% cured from MCS, how is that possible?
I have done
the Gupta brain retraining for almost a year. That helped
me fully recover from MCS.
2) How did you find the
programme?
First I received information about the training of
Annie Hopper, but she only gave seminars and did not have DVD’s for
doing the training at home. At that time I was not able to get out
of the house to go to a seminar! I have found the Gupta programme
through Facebook.
3) Why did you start to do it?
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Because of the many positive testimonials, I started it.
What did I have to loose? I just gave it the benefit of the doubt
and went 100% for it. If it doesn’t work, it won’t hurt either, was
one of my first thoughts.
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Because the website of Ashok Gupta said that the
training is NOT like Cognitive Behavioural Therapy, Reverse
Therapy, Psychotherapy, Positive Thinking, Basic Relaxation, Hypnosis
or Hypnotherapy etc. I was very sensitive for the “all in the head”
theories and Ashok was very clear about that that is NOT the case in
his approach and that convinced me to go for it.
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Because the price for what you get is very good!
In
the DVD programme you will receive the following: • 12 “Fully
Interactive DVD Sessions” at the Clinic (over 15 hours), with Ashok
Gupta • An A4 Book which contains a copy of the script of the DVDs •
An Audio CD with mind exercises to also help “retrain the amygdala”
• Etc. Normally if you go to a seminar, or several times (for
months) to a clinic, it costs you much more money.
4) How did you like the
training sessions?
I liked it very much. It felt like I was
sitting in his office and that they were private sessions.
The quality
is very high. The sessions are built up slowly and the video quality
is perfect. Ashok Gupta speaks clearly and I quickly started to like
him. I watched the DVD’s over and over again and every time I felt
really content with this material. One of the positive things is
also that you will get a book with exactly everything printed what
has been told (the script). It is professional study material,
suitable for every one.
You can work on it in your own page and
time.

5) What is the Gupta Programme
in your own words?
The Gupta programme is created for ME/CFS and
Fibromyalgia patients, but works also great for MCS. Because of
several causes – like toxic injury, viruses etc. – the amygdala
(which is located in the unconscious brain) can become
oversensitive, with other words: it remains on ‘high alert’ or stays
stuck in overdrive. Then it gives too many (wrong) signals to your
system and that has many
(and in some cases severe) consequences for
all kind of processes in your body.
The immune,
detoxification and
other systems are down regulated during a perceived emergency state
your brain is in, and that once the amygdala is reset to a normal
function, the body systems will go back to normal functioning again.
Detailed information about the amygdala and the programme you
will find here:
►
A complete free session (session 2) about the amygdala via
YouTube:
Watch all these parts to get a more understanding what it is:
session 2 part 1 ;
session 2 part 2 ;
session 2 part 3 ;
session 2 part 4 ;
session 2 part 5 ;
session 2 part 6
►
Information via Gupta’s website:
explain CFS ;
explain MCS
►
The
hypothesis of Ashok Gupta explains about the cause of ME/CFS.
Although this is a drug-free therapy, Ashok clearly states that
ME/CFS is a real physical condition, with real physical
symptoms. This is based on his medical paper which was published
in a medical journal in 2002. The explanation is based on the
role of a brain structure called the Amygdala, which keeps the body in a permanent imbalanced state, causing
all of the symptoms.
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A one year
Observational Clinical Audit Study on 33 patients, and this
has shown that 93% of patients improved, and two-thirds (67%)
went on to make a full recovery, or close to that mark. Most of
these patients are now back in full time work.
6) Is this training ‘fear’
based?
This training is NOT fear based, but primarily focused on
dealing with the unconscious responses of the body. And that is
totally different than the statement some people make that it is a
matter of conscious fear.
7) Did you find negative
responds from MCS patients on this training?
Unfortunately yes.
There are some MCS patients who did not do the programme, but are
judging it anyway and in a bad way (and shout that from the roofs).
Those – often negative orientated - people (mis-)use words like
‘fear based’ (see former question) to keep other MCS patients from
doing this programme.
Also some people think it is
mind over matter, it is all in your head. That is not true. The body
has in fact been damaged, but it is the brain controlling the
responses, not the mind. You are not thinking or imaging your way to
better health, but actually retraining your brain!
These misunderstandings are so
sad, because lots of people will stay then in their lonely vicious
(brain) circle and never find their way back to freedom and
healing because of that.
STUDY THE MATERIAL YOURSELF WELL BEFORE YOU JUDGE OR BEFORE YOU LET
YOURSELF BE NEGATIVELY INFLUENCED BY OTHERS!
8) Did you immediately commit
yourself to this training?
On 2010 June 27th I started the
training and made a ‘contract’ with myself to give it for at least
six months the benefit of the doubt. Nothing would disturb this
process, was my decision. The 27th of December I was officially done
and we celebrated it in a restaurant, enjoying a lovely X-mas diner!
An incredible step forward.
9) How long did the programme
take?
12 Sessions feels like a lot, but I took the time and
studied the material for weeks/months in a row. No rush, just step
by step I was doing the programme. Studying the DVD’s over and over
again until I could ‘dream the information’. I lived 6 years in
isolation, I knew it would take me some time to crawl out of this
again. I personally needed more time than 6 months; I can say after
9 till 12 months I really started to talk about full recovery.
10) How did you deal with the fumes from the book and
floor map?
At the start I only worked
with the DVD's. Because the floor map and the book I found too
smelly too (the book is only a complete script from everything that
has been said on the DVD's). I took a picture (photo) of the floor map
and printed it out on A4 and that paper I put in a out gassed
plastic sheet at that time. I worked without the floor map and
instead I held my own little map (picture on A4 paper) in my hand
for practicing. One of the first things I worked on was being able
to read books again and that succeeded. Very soon I could handle the
ink and stuff of printed books, maps etc. Then I could read the
Gupta book unprotected as well (before that I only could read with a
respirator).
11) How did you adjust the
programme to your MCS situation?
Everywhere Ashok Gupta talked
about CFS, I replaced it in my thoughts and on paper with ‘MCS’.
With all of the exercises I worked on the ‘issue’ MCS. You can use
the exercises for ME/CFS/Fibromyalgia and personal issues for
example. I only was focused on MCS, that was my priority number one.
I wrote down everything that has to do with MCS, all of my
reactions, my thoughts etc. and worked it step by step out of my
system with the main techniques (the A. training – short and long
version - was the most important tool for me). Some MCS reactions I
had to work on several times, some of them disappeared after just
one exercise and other reactions just disappeared by themselves or
in time, because of the reason that the amygdala became calmer and
calmer. It is like peeling an onion. Layer for layer trying to solve
it and getting rid of it until MCS has been worked out of your
system and life completely.
12) Did you use all of his
techniques?
I used the 2 main techniques (A. training + S&F) and
the additional techniques I studied and researched very well. The
additional techniques - like for example the meditation techniques -
are very professional and highly effective. However, I already
meditated for years (Transcendental Meditation) and for relaxation
and extra energy I used Reiki (see my
Reiki
website and book the ABC’s of Reiki about that) and preferred to
go on with that. For people who do not do any relaxation techniques
yet in their lives, they really can have much benefit of the
additional techniques. They are easy to learn and do. The guided
meditations on CD and the DVD’s are very pleasant. It is very
important to calm the amygdala (in every possible way) and his
additional techniques do have this purpose as well, so do not skip
them if you don't have a decent alternative!
13) What else did you do during
that training?
I read several scientific books about neural
plasticity / rewiring the brain, which helped me to understand what
was going on – going wrong - in my unconscious brain and how
that is affecting my life and health in a negative way. It helped me
a lot to understand more about the brain functions, cells, genes
etc.
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The Brain That Changes Itself -
Norman Doidge, M.D.
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The Genie in your Genes - Dawson
Church, Ph.D
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The Biology of Belief – Dr. Bruce
Lipton
14) Did you have food and emf
sensitivities?
Yes, I trained it all out of my system. Step by
step. I handled my reactions to food and emf the same way I handled
my physical MCS reactions.
15) Aren’t we definitely
damaged by chemicals?
When the amygdala is back in its natural
state – calm – then the attention of the body will go back to
the other systems. That is why your whole system works better when
the amygdala has been calmed down. My detoxification system is
working great. I never had any poisonous reactions anymore for
example. My body just works now as it is supposed to work. I have never
felt this good in my entire life.
16) Doesn’t the amygdala
get calm by itself in time?
Ashok Gupta says that when the amygdala
is traumatised, it will stay in that mode, until it has been
reprogrammed, trained or ‘told’ that it can rest again. Your
amygdala needs to learn new things and your amygdala really is prone
to learn new things. Only this time for the good. Fortunately the
amygdala learns quick end remembers that.
17) How fast did you notice the
first changes?
After two weeks of training I already noticed the
first little changes and after 6 months consistently retraining my
brains, I did the most normal things again, like shopping at the
supermarket, dining out, visiting friends and family in their home,
receive visitors, go into town, going to parties et cetera. After
9-12 months I actually functioned better than ever before and
started to talk and think about 100% recovery.
18) Didn’t you have any doubts?
Too beautiful to be true I thought. But I made the 'contract' with
myself and went 100% for it, although the doubts were still there in
the beginning. After the first little improvements, I started to
become more enthusiastic and slowly I began to gain faith that it
would work for me as well and decided not to let go. Reading the
mentioned books helped me to understand even more what was going on
in my brains and cells!
19) What is your advice to
people who are starting the programme?
Two important words to
keep in mind: persistence and consistent. Your brains
need to get the opportunity to make new neuronal pathways (and to have
the time and attention to deepen those new paths, so that they will
remain). Therefore it is important to make this commitment for at
least 6 months. You have to go for it 100% and not one day 100% and
another day 1% because of tiredness, bad mood or any other excuse
that would undermine your work. You have to stay conscious and
focused on how the amygdala is working and on the moments it keeps
on trying to get your attention. You need to stop its wrong signals
all the time, sometimes with the long version you have learned from
the DVD’s and other times just the short version of the A. training.
The S&F exercise really eases a bad reaction very well and must not
be forgotten, but the most important action/step is always to stop
your amygdala first. Do not give it back its power.
Make sure you keep on practicing and watching the DVD’s and study
the material over and over again until you really have found big
improvement. After a while it will become so much easier to stop the
amygdala from firing off, it will become an automatic response then.
20) How did you expose yourself
to chemicals again?
After doing the training for a while I
started to do experiments with relatively safe things at home. I
practiced with reading a printed book, opening the mail, talking to
someone at the door without protection, receiving scented people in
our home, going to a store (not the supermarket yet), went for a
drive and so on and on. My husband did not shower anymore after
doing groceries or what so ever and I had to deal with those
reactions to the chemicals in his clothes, hair etc. I even borrowed
some sheets from friends, to have some perfumed cotton at home to
work with. I had to do the exercises right away when my husband came
home unsafe for me at that time. But it worked, I got it out of my
system!! I just saw all those (daily) things as exam/study material.
I could practice my exercises then. Baby step by baby step I
conquered back the world and my freedom.
21) How do I adjust the A. training specific to MCS and EHS etc.?
You can do the A. training on
MCS in several ways. You can work out every reaction
(physical/emotional etc.), belief, fear or thought by dealing with
them the same way as if they would be just another regular negative
thought Gupta is talking about. MCS (or EHS etc.) is NOT a matter of
negative thinking, but you handle that vicious circle the same way
as other issues named in the programme. You just use the A. training
for communication with your amygdala and unconscious brain. You
break the pattern until it is vanished! The moment you feel or
notice any reaction in your body or mind concerning MCS, CFS, EHS,
Fibromyalgia and so on, you IMMEDIATELY do the A. training (long
version walk or the short version in your mind). All the time! In
the beginning you are very busy with it and you might have to break
conversations, watching movies or what so ever to do your exercises
promptly (I mostly withdrawn myself to the bedroom to be as much as
concentrated as I could be). You even can work with it 'on purpose'
when you are having time and want to practise, like for example
using the phrase : “I am reacting to perfumes
(chemicals/gasses/smoke etc.)” and start "the walk and talk". Or
use sentences like “I have MCS” Or “This …. (fill in the specific
thing what makes you sick) is making me ill”. Also false or wrong
beliefs about the programme itself you can work out of your
unconscious part of the brain. Like: “I do not believe I will ever
get better this way” and let your future self motivate you or make
you believe that it is going to work for you as well. Also just
breaking a(ny) thought about a symptom helps when doing the dishes
for example! Be consistent and persistence, that is all it
needs! And do not forget to end the exercise in a positive way and
with a positive statement (what is sending a positive signal to your
brains and cells)!
22) Did you simply follow the standard wording of the A. training?
I used most of the time the
standard wording while I was retraining. Of course you can reword it
in your own way/words and adjust it to a specific problem of
reaction. But make sure you keep it as close as possible to the
original text to make sure you use the proper text at the right
step.
23) How do I notice my amygdala is firing off?
You can notice that your
amygdala is firing off in many ways. Reactions in your body, fears,
negative thoughts, not feeling well etc.etc.
It sometimes even can be
experienced in a very subtle way, like a "whisper". The amygdala
gives signals to your conscious brain and if you notice signals
concerning MCS, than you know your amygdala is warning you. So you
have to stop it and tell it that it does not need to respond anymore
like this. Your conscious knows, but your unconscious must learn it
too and the exercise (the A. training) is perfect to stop it and to
make new neural path ways that way. It is a (brain) communication
with the amygdala, you give a message back to it. And finally it
will react as you want it to react.
24) Did you use the accelerator
technique?
I bought the DVD and watched it, but I was already
doing very well and did not need it anymore. I can imagine that
maybe some people without any results can benefit of this addition.
I already added after a few months an other technique what worked
pretty well for me too (and a very quick one as well). See next
question.
25) Did you work also with
other techniques besides Gupta?
In the book “The Genie in your
Genes” from Dawson Church, Ph.D. I found on page 231 a way of
tapping things out of your system. It is called WHEE (Wholistic
Hybrid derived from EMDR and EFT). It is a technique that just takes
a few minutes but has a high impact. One night I was really feeling
not well because of MCS I tried this out and in a few minutes that
bad feeling was completely gone. I was totally flabbergasted and
decided to adapt this technique and work with it. I used it for
tapping out reactions to food, products, smells, fear reactions,
physical problems, pain etc. It is a quick and effective tool. I
still work with this on all kind of stuff that has nothing to do
with MCS.
If you want to read a special
book about this technique, it is called; “Seven minutes to Natural
Pain Release. WHEE for tapping your Pain away”- Daniel J. Benor, MD.
The book is all about dealing with pain, but can be interesting if
you want to know all about this method .
26) You withdraw yourself from
the MCS world for a while, why is that?
During the training, you
will get the advice to leave (or not being active in) these kind of
communities to only focus on your own healing process. And during
that process not to help others or to let yourself be influenced by others.
That is why I have chosen for my recovery and made it my priority
number one. When you are healed it is much easier to be there for
others. That is why I came back and hope that my story will inspire
and help others.
27) Is a personal coach
helpful?
Yes, that would be helpful (I have educated my husband
for being a good support at my weak moments), but when there is not
anyone for you, you can definitely do this on your own. You have all
of the tools and the most import thing you need to do is the
commitment to yourself and your own healing process. Know that you
can find personal coaching via the Gupta training centre as well.
28) Where do I find other
people who did the programme?
At Ashok Gupta's website there
is an official forum for brain retrainers:
www.guptaprogramme.com/forum
At the website of Planet Thrive you'll find a
support forum.
Via my
Facebook page you can find connection to people who did or are
doing the
training themselves. Keep in mind that this is not a coaching
page, but only for sharing positive news on brain retraining. Your
recovery story is more than welcome, that will inspire others!
29) How do I deal with tough
moments?
Everybody will get difficult moments during those 6
months. A healing process goes with ups and downs. I too had my weak
moments, but if you realise that it is temporarily and that it will
get better and better in time, you always have enough power and
motivation to go on and on. Nothing is more important than your
health. In time your dips will get less and less and finally
disappear. Accept them as natural parts of this period. If you fall,
just get back on your feet and go on.

Never - never, never, never, never - give up!
(Winston Churchill)
30) What if somebody does not
have energy at all and is bed ridden?
Everybody can do the
training in his own page and time. You can do the training also in
bed. Every exercise is adjustable to that.
31) Do you need to spend much
time daily on this training?
That will be dependable on your
situation. But best thing to do is – especially at the beginning,
the first few weeks – to give it as much time as possible. You have
to make time to study the material and let it sink in. But you can
do the exercises when you are at work, on the bus, during house
keeping, etc. There is no reason thinkable of not doing this for
yourself and own healing process. You can adjust it completely to
your own life and time or integrate the programme completely into
your daily life.
32) But what if I do not have
the time and/or energy to study this programme?
"No time" is in
my eyes a weak excuse for not doing it. You better focus on what you
can instead of what you can not! If "no time" would have been the
case in my life, I would have studied at night if necessary, because
what can be more important than your own recovery from MCS? And
besides the fact that you will crawl out of this horrible isolated
situation, you can be even better there for others, your work, your
family than if you would do not anything about your illness and
would stay in this vicious circle. But that is my humble personal
opinion…
Stop making false excuses!
33) How about working on
personal issues with the programme?
You can use the programme
for many situations and things in life that are influencing you in a
negative way. I myself choose to make MCS my priority number one,
but if personal issues came along or popped up, I used the same
techniques to make sure that it would not harm me. I worked
everything out of my system what had to do with MCS and what made me
different than "normal and healthy people".
34) What do I wrong if I still have bad reactions after an exposure?
I can not look into others
life's and how consistent they are doing the program (it is very
important to study it very well and over and over and over again).
My experience is, that I had to do everything in really SMALL steps.
So no exposure for a long time in the beginning to perfumes, but
short moments and then work on it with the A. training. And when I
had a reaction I did the S&F (right away). If your UNconscious still
believes it is unsafe, then your amygdala will continue to fire off.
So it needs more time and attention and maybe your steps were too
big. Maybe it will help to borrow some perfumed clothes, sheets or
towels from friends/family and to practice with it at home. First a
few minutes in your surrounding (and then bring it to the garage or
what so ever) and make the exposure time a bit longer and longer
every time. Especially when you do not have reactions of course (and
if you have reactions, work on it right away). And in time you bring
the perfumed item (like a towel) in your bedroom for sleeping in a
'perfumed' room, but that is just the 'end station'. You need to do
this in tiny little steps. Your UNconscious must start to
believe/learn that it is safe now and that it don't need to warn you
anymore. Your conscious may want many things (and right now), but
that is just your WILL (power); your UNconscious part of the brain
must learn it, must get the time for it. It must starting to believe
it too. So keep on practicing every day and every moment/time it
needs your attention.
35) Do I need to do the Gupta Programme
permanently?
No, you do not have to do the
Gupta programme permanently; In time you will do the exercises less
and less. And finally you do not have to do them anymore when the
amygdala is back in its natural state. I hardly do not do the
exercises anymore, but sometimes when I do 'new' things I have to
stay focused that my amygdala will not get in control (high alert)
again.
36) What can I do more if I do not feel big improvements after 6 months?
There are several things you
can do:
►
Find motivation, information, help and support at the
Gupta
forum Do not struggle alone!
►
Find help from a
Professional Coach of the
Gupta
Clinic Normally you really should be able to find
improvement too, so do not give up too soon. Make sure other medical
reasons are ruled out. NOTE: Always ask a professional doctor for
help when having health problems. Also when working on the program
or when being coached.
►Try
to work out any false beliefs about the programme with the tools you
have received. Use the A. training to get rid of your own doubts
and sceptic feelings, because they can block your recovery process.
It surely can! Give it the benefit of the doubt a few months more.
►
Keep these two words in
mind: Consistent and Persistence. Try to find out where you have
been too nice for yourself or on what point you are not or have not
been committed
for 100%. There can be tons of reasons, but none of them will help
you to move forward.
37) What if I will not have any
results at all?
There is a money back guarantee on this
programme. Check the website and the study material for information
on that.
38) Did you hear about others
who recovered from MCS?
Yes, mainly also from people who did the
programme. From one MCS patient I heard that she recovered because
of taking a specific anti depression medication. Some of those
medications (please ask a professional for more details) calm down
the amygdala as well. But knowing that a lot of MCS patients can not
handle any medication, the brain retraining would be preferable I
think. In some cases, this medication therapy could be a life saver
when nothing else seems possible. It all depends on your own
personal situation.
39) Do you use any regular
medicine?
I had to use for a short while for other reasons than
MCS regular medication this year. I had no side effects or what so
ever.
40) Do you still have reactions
after a year?
No, I do not have any MCS reactions any more. But
I still have to be conscious about the fact that I do not give wrong
signals back to my amygdala
when I am starting to get worried or feeling fears.
Especially when I did new things, like staying in a hotel, making a
flight, encounter bad smells etc. I needed to stay focused on my amygdala. I think it will take a few years, before I never think
about MCS again.
41) How is your sense of smell
doing now?
Your smell normalises when
your system calms down, that is what Gupta says and that is my
experience as well. I really hardly do not smell people or things
anymore (only when there are strong fumes, but everyone does smell
that then!). In any case I do not notice smells as strong as I did
before. It is correct that that is normalising too, fortunately!!
42) How does it feel to be back
in the world?
Every day still feels like a blessing, a gift. If
you have lived in isolation for many years with the thought that it
would be the rest of your life and you find freedom again, that is
truly a miracle. Although I had to do the ‘work’ myself, it really
feels like something very special has overcome to me. I feel a deep
thankfulness and a happiness what life gives me and will never take
it for granted anymore. I am living in freedom now and a normal
life, but I never will forget this amazing, blessed experience. I
really hope MANY MCS patients will follow in my foot steps and find
recovery as well. That is my deepest wish.
43) Are you going to use chemical products again?
I did a lot of
research for my MCS books and know about the dangers of toxic
chemicals. Where I can choose for natural and safe products, I will
keep on doing that. But now it is matter of free choice!
44) Are you available as
personal coach for others?
After years of being ill and working
on MCS information (my website/books – see
link)
it is time for me to live my new life. We have very beautiful plans,
that has something to do with a new project (travelling and writing)
This webpage is my
unconditional gift to the MCS patients, meant to say to them:
“There is a way out of the hell, called MCS”.
You have to work on it hard,
but it really is doable. I could shout it out: “PLEASE BELIEVE ME”,
but people have to go their own ways and make their own decisions.
Like I choose now for another life than being somebody’s personal
coach, that would confront me every day too much with the MCS
community and its dark sides and I really want to leave that behind
me now.
45) Where
do I find more information (web links)?
My
websites:
The ABC's
of MCS
The ABC's of Reiki
My
Facebook page about my recovery
Gupta
Amygdala Retraining:
Ashok Gupta
Gupta
Forum

Facebook page Ashok Gupta
Part 1/6
Part 2/6
Part 3/6
Part 4/6
Part 5/6
Part 6/6
Planet Thrive:
An interview with Ashok Gupta
Planet Thrive Support Forum
Limbic
retraining
Planet Thrive about my recovery
Planet Thrive - more stories about recovery from MCS
Rewiring the chemically sensitive brain - interview with Annie
Hopper
Thilde Jensen's recovery
Miscellaneous:
EMF and Multiple Chemical Sensitivity - Thilde on YouTube
Ervaringsverhalen Gupta Amygdala Retraining - Dutch website
www.cvsme.nl
Everything Makes Them Sick See Text/Statement on the last
picture (#22)
Healing from MCS (BlogSpot)
MCS recovery process BlogSpot
MCS und Amygdala Retraining - Geheilt - German blog
Multiple Chemical Sensitivity - Process of Recovery
My
Journey into MCS, EMFS, CFS - and back; Linda Worthington
Posts that focus entirely on MCS improvements
Retraining the brain for cfs fms mcs ptsd gws
I hope this webpage will be of help for
you!!
All the best,

Els Valkenburg, the
Netherlands

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